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Post by duane on Aug 7, 2007 14:55:34 GMT 1
I walk into the pub today ready for my 4 day work experiance, I not only get slandered for my appearance but they did it infront of customers. f---ing ass----s
sorry for ma swaring..
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Post by celticwolf on Aug 9, 2007 15:55:47 GMT 1
So wot was wrong with your appearance?
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Post by kharma on Aug 9, 2007 19:57:11 GMT 1
Sounds soooooooooo proffessional
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Post by evadarkness on Aug 10, 2007 9:20:22 GMT 1
I agree this should have been handled much better by the manager. But for your own advancement in future before going to any work placement etc ask what the dress code is. Lots of workplaces have different dress codes so if you go prepared you are already in the plus.
M.
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Post by admin on Aug 10, 2007 9:49:08 GMT 1
It's worth investing in a plain tie - navy works well. You can pick these up in charity shops for 50p if money is tight. An ironed white shirt and tie goes a long way to making a good impression on your first day at any job, even if the dress code is more informal and you turn up in jeans and sweatshirt on day two.
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Post by duane on Aug 10, 2007 11:51:20 GMT 1
I wore the clothes that was required, my hair was a bit of a mess because of the wind. I trid to explain this but the manger wasn't having any of it.
granted I may of looked a lil scruffy by my hair but that was besides the point he shouldn't of started infront of customers and other staff. I would of been alot happyer if he pulled me into the office and had ago .
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Post by celticwolf on Aug 10, 2007 15:27:33 GMT 1
But from what you have said you wore what was required, maybe he was just having a bad day? No excuse though really, that is sooooooo unproffesional!
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Post by duane on Aug 13, 2007 15:28:40 GMT 1
black shoes, black trousers, black t shirt or shirt. and I wore them all..
get this I had a class mate ending up working there at the weekend, and apparently the manger told her everything that had happened. so much for the confidential act eh?
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Post by ian on Aug 13, 2007 21:05:50 GMT 1
So the bit I am still confused about is...
If you were wearing the dress code, that you had previously been told to wear, why did the manager feel he needed to speak to you about it in the first place, wether it was in front of customers or not?
Are you sure you are not putting a slightly biased opinion on this?
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Post by admin on Aug 14, 2007 8:31:37 GMT 1
HI Duane
As well as a tie, always make sure your clothes are neatly pressed, and if your hair is liable to be a bit "windswept" invest a pound in some styling gell or spray to hold it in place. (It's not just for girls!)
bb Rhiannon
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Post by duane on Aug 14, 2007 8:46:21 GMT 1
So the bit I am still confused about is... If you were wearing the dress code, that you had previously been told to wear, why did the manager feel he needed to speak to you about it in the first place, wether it was in front of customers or not? Are you sure you are not putting a slightly biased opinion on this? nop all that was wrong with my appreance i'd have to say was my hair was a bit of a mess, I wore everything that was required of me. I really don't understand it myself, I was willing to go to the shop and get a brush or somthing but he wasn't having any of it, apprently he was in a mood and suffers from mood swings all the time. yeah I know I usally go to the hair dressers before I go to a interview or work placement I really don't know why I didn't, but again my hair was only slightly out of place hardly enough reason to embrasses me infront of costumers.
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Post by admin on Aug 14, 2007 11:15:31 GMT 1
Hi Duane
If you feel you did everything you could then perhaps you could write a letter of complaint to the customer services department of whichever chain/brewery the pub belongs to.
Some people are afraid of people who are a little bit different to what they consider "the norm" and try and cover this fear by mickey-taking or nastiness.
It might also be worth explaining your concerns to your employment advisor. There may be funding available for such things as a new suit (I know some people have had funding for this off the social in the past) or workshops on how to be presentable at work.
Good luck. I think you deserve a big cheer for still looking for a job despite all the setbacks you have had.
bb Rhiannon
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Post by duane on Aug 15, 2007 9:02:08 GMT 1
thanks for the advice, I have a suite but because I only have a white shirt and not black I had to wear the t-shirt. however I had everything else that was on the list. I trid explaining this to him but he wasn't having any of it, and It was more about my hair then anything else.
yeah my sisters contacting the brewery and putting an offical complaint in, if they don't do anything I think I might take it futher as it is discrimination.
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Post by gwenifer on Aug 15, 2007 19:37:18 GMT 1
Depending on which brewery it was, (and there's not much difference between them) there is little point in doing more than asking for a written apology and a written confirmation that it will not affect any future applications to other pubs in the same chain. You can't sue for discrimination as you have to have been employed by them for at least two years previous to the discrimination. At one time you could complain to the job centre but they don't do anything now. Unfortunately there is little that can be done as they always have the 'it was a personality clash' or 'you were just not suitable' as you were not an employee.
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Post by brumwolf on Aug 15, 2007 21:29:59 GMT 1
Perhaps next time taking a comb, arriving a good 15 minutes early and making sure your hair is not 'lil scruffy'. For any public facing job appearence is paramount. It does not matter if its working in a pub, a shop or behind a counter at a post office, appearance accounts for 90% of the requirememnts.
W.
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