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May 10, 2007 10:03:18 GMT 1
Post by duane on May 10, 2007 10:03:18 GMT 1
all I can say without getting into a politcal argument again is that i wont vote for a any party's that are currently running, as I do truly believe that there are higher powers inovled and see no point until they are gone.
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May 10, 2007 16:02:39 GMT 1
Post by merrybel on May 10, 2007 16:02:39 GMT 1
Have you looked at the manifestos for the minority parties? Green, UKIP? You might find that they have what you are looking for. Investigate all possibilities, and then make up your mind. But don't throw away your vote. It is so important. And you will be long gone before they are, which means you will never have your say in the running of the country. Either that, or start your own party, Duane. If you aren't happy with the way things are, change them. Don't sit back and complain about them unless you are prepared to do something. I can just see you in No. 10, sweetheart!!
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May 10, 2007 16:14:28 GMT 1
Post by admin on May 10, 2007 16:14:28 GMT 1
I once voted for a very small local party whose manifesto could be summed up as "Be Excellent to each other". Seems like an ideal to me
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May 10, 2007 16:18:09 GMT 1
Post by duane on May 10, 2007 16:18:09 GMT 1
i wouldn't get involed with this kind of thing cuz if I got in power i'd kick 70% of england's population out hmm perhaps thats a good thing? I can see where ur coming from though,
i'm not complaing about what each party's are doing, someone asked me why i wouldn't vote and i stated my opinions..
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May 10, 2007 20:12:25 GMT 1
Post by Kiel on May 10, 2007 20:12:25 GMT 1
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May 10, 2007 22:53:31 GMT 1
Post by gwenifer on May 10, 2007 22:53:31 GMT 1
You'd kick 70% of the population out of the country? Where would you send them? Any idea how much it would cost to do that? Who would do the work that needed doing if you kicked out 70% of the people? Illegal asylum seekers do around 90% of the jobs that British people WON'T do because it doesn't pay enough or it is too dirty or dangerous. I say illegal because asylum seekers are not allowed to work (officially) what others would you want to get rid of? Muslims because they may be terrorists? Genuine asylum seekers who have HAD to leave their countries because they and their families are in extreme danger? Euro citizens who come here to work? What was that you were saying in the other thread about not judging people?
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May 11, 2007 10:36:09 GMT 1
Post by kharma on May 11, 2007 10:36:09 GMT 1
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May 11, 2007 10:36:40 GMT 1
Post by duane on May 11, 2007 10:36:40 GMT 1
thats my point gwenifer, i'm not going to mention who i'd kick as it'd get into trouble for being racist bla bla... this is exactly why I wouldn't go into jury service as well.. and now were going off topic
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May 11, 2007 14:29:03 GMT 1
Post by admin on May 11, 2007 14:29:03 GMT 1
Eh?? Whilst there may be quite a few immigrants, some of them illegal, they in no way make up 76% of the population!
Gwenifer is right - a lot of them are doing jobs that the indigenous population don't want.
bb Rhiannon
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May 11, 2007 19:49:21 GMT 1
Post by Kiel on May 11, 2007 19:49:21 GMT 1
I'd get rid of people who don't like other peoples opinions Isn't that a tad oxymoronic? "I wont accept you because you dont accept me." etc
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May 12, 2007 12:37:03 GMT 1
Post by brumwolf on May 12, 2007 12:37:03 GMT 1
thats my point gwenifer, i'm not going to mention who i'd kick as it'd get into trouble for being racist bla bla... this is exactly why I wouldn't go into jury service as well.. and now were going off topic Well most of us have already come to the conclusion that your self obsessed and ill informed based on the comments made in other threads, why stop there, spell out who exactly you would kick out.
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May 12, 2007 14:33:09 GMT 1
Post by duane on May 12, 2007 14:33:09 GMT 1
brumwolf I don't like your attitude towards me, stop attacking my personal belifs, I have not done so to you nor anyone else, I have stated my belifs becasue everyone has asked me to do so, if you can't accept them then don't bother talking to me. I have already said I didn't want to mention who i'd like to kick due to the fact it'd cause the very argument your about to get me into.
I have personal opinions on who shouldn't be apart of this contury but at the same time I don't like judging people which is the very reason why 1. I don't want to go into goverment 2. I don't want to be in the jury...
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May 12, 2007 15:49:01 GMT 1
Post by brumwolf on May 12, 2007 15:49:01 GMT 1
I guess I'm just putting into practice something you said you like to do. I love picking out the littile things that conterdict each other.. it makes the other people think for a bit.
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May 13, 2007 9:38:20 GMT 1
Post by gwenifer on May 13, 2007 9:38:20 GMT 1
Duane, Brumwolf is perfectly justified in questioning your logic. You say you don't want to judge people but really you just don't want to take responsibility for the outcome! Doesn't it strike you as being wrong if you first state you would kick people out of the country then go on to say that you are a racist? You stated that you are racist by saying that you would not define the group you want to kick out as it would be deemed racist. I don't know where your head is at, but it seems to me that you need to do some serious thinking about the way you judge people. You do judge people every day, everyone does.
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May 13, 2007 17:44:26 GMT 1
Post by kharma on May 13, 2007 17:44:26 GMT 1
All we need is to have strictly managed immigration and to make all the dosser who think being on the dole is a life choice and not a safety net for genuine people,get them to do these so called jobs that British people refuse to do.The jobs are there its just the system is way to weak,if they dont get work they dont get there dole cheque and for definite we need to send illegal immigrants home,we seem to be the dustbin of Europe by all means immigrants that are legal and have a profession are welcome but illegals NO.We are a small island and we are full.... Sam not Jo
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